Evidence Post for Juletide 2020 Tagset

[tailcoat]

With nominations open, some fandoms will need evidence to be approved into the Juletide 2020 tagset. Comment on this post if the fandom you’ve nominated:

• has too many stories to be eligible, but only because a significant majority are unrelated but tagged as crossovers, OR because a significant majority tagged as 'English' aren't.
 
• appears on AO3 as part of a larger “umbrella” fandom, but you can clearly show that the fics for your fandom are under the limit.
 
• is a fanwork.
 
• does not yet exist on AO3 and is hard to google (very common name, few sources in English, etc).
 
• includes the words “All Media Types” or “and Related Fandoms” and you believe you need to use that label.
 
• is closely related to another fandom, especially if the other fandom is ineligible.

If your fandom is already in the Yuletide 2019 tagset, no need to worry! This is only for new nominations.

Comments

[aearis]

I was thinking of nominating Pacific Rim: Uprising which is grouped under the Pacific Rim (Movies) tag with the first movie. It's kind of tricky because some (very popular) characters from the first movie also show up in Uprising, but a search for fics tagged with the main characters from Uprising (Jake Pentecost/Nate Lambert/Amara Namani) comes in well under the limit.

[tailcoat]

Hi! In looking this up, it looks like Uprising is a direct sequel, with some characters from the first movie playing large roles - is this correct? Our rule of thumb is to be eligible apart from an ineligible fandom connection, the properties need to be able to stand alone from each other - that is, could someone watch the second film, request, and write for it, without expecting knowledge from the rest of the connected properties? (This is a legit question, I haven't watched Uprising and don't know how much it stands alone)

[aearis]

There are only three characters that appear in both movies, one of whom was a main character in the first movie and only has a minor role in Uprising, one who's a minor character in both movies, and one who was a minor character in the first movie but has a larger role in Uprising.

As for whether Uprising could stand alone, it opens with a monologue that explains the setting and recaps the main events of the first movie so you could definitely watch it without watching the first movie. That being said, you do miss out on a few things by going straight to Uprising, eg. more details on drift compatibility, the kaiju, the breach, and some references to scenes from the first movie.

So...I'm really not sure if it should be eligible or not :p I don't mind if someone else chimes in or if you want to get a second opinion.

[tailcoat]

Thank you for explaining! We discussed it, and we will approve Pacific Rim: Uprising, but will not be approving characters who appear in more than 1K fics with filters.

[aearis]

Great, thanks!

[liryian]

Haven't actually sent in my nominations yet, but I'm planning on this one.

Fandom: Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure (Cartoon)
Potential issue: closely related to Tangled (2010), which has 1075 works on Ao3 once the filters are applied.
Why it should be accepted here: Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure has a far larger cast than Tangled the film, including several main characters who aren't so much as hinted at in the movie. Additionally, it vastly expands upon the backstories presented in the film for the film's characters, the lore of the series, and heaps a whole lot of character development on the film's characters. For this reason, a request for Tangled, the film, could not double as a request for the series, and I think they should be considered as separate entities for the purposes of this exchange.
It would probably be a little jarring to watch the series without the movie, but only a little bit; I think it would be completely comprehensible.

[tailcoat]

Thank you! We will approve this.

[fencesit]

I think it should be pretty easy to google but no fics have been written for it yet so in case you can't find it here's the comic "Polo" that I nominated https://alligatestheclotpole.tumblr.com/post/186871712434/marco-polo-thats-the-joke-thank-you-for-your

[tailcoat]

Approved, thank you!

(also this is so cute thank you for the link